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Lady Saw is not backsliding but plans to return to dancehall.
Dancehall fans are divided since hearing the news that Minister Marion Hall is returning to dancehall. Some think it’s exciting to have the fiery songstress back in the genre, while others believe she’s just exploiting it for her own gains. Hall has made no mention that she intends to return as Lady Saw, and nobody’s quite sure what her brand of dancehall will sound like. Amidst the bit of confusion, the minister who baptized Hall has every confidence that she is not backsliding but simply responding to a calling.
Bishop Everton Thomas spoke with the Jamaica Star to share his feelings about Hall’s planned return to music. He believes that she will not be returning as her former persona.
“Marion is not going back into the dancehall as an artiste where she was coming from because she is too grounded,” he said. Bishop is the head of the Emmanuel Apostolic Church. He added that she was defending herself and there was no sin in that. “There are times when the Lord uses you as the instrument in that fight, just as He did with David,” he said. He maintained that she had the right to defend herself because RT Boss “a try buss offa her.”
RT Boss made a name for himself in the past two weeks after he went after Spice and Hall with spurious claims about the two being involved in an obeah triangle. He said that “a Lady Saw first start do obeah so me did haffi put on heat on Lady Saw make she run.”
Hall has since denied the claims and, during her two-hour sermon last Sunday, December 27, said she would use “Holy Ghost missiles” to defend her name when she drops “Mi Soon Alright” on January 1.
During the sermon, Lady Saw also said that no one could stop her from using dancehall music. “If I want to go into the dancehall to proclaim the Word of Jesus, who is going to stop me? If I want to go back into the enemy’s camp, I will go. I am not looking for you to agree with me. Nobody nuh bad like Jesus,” she said.
Is Vybz Kartel the king of dancehall?
Fans of the genre have been debating for the past few weeks about who is the king of dancehall music after crowning Spice the new queen. Beenie Man and Spice butt heads last month over whether or not she is the new dancehall queen since Lady Saw hang up her mic. According to Beenie, the “So Mi Like It” deejay is more of a self appointed designated queen and then she shot back accusing him of doing the same thing.
Spice accused the Doc of being a self-proclaim king while referring to Kartel as the true heir to the throne. Dancehall HipHop conducting a poll on social media where we asked fans who is the king of of Jamaica’s dominant music culture. Approximately 71 percent of respondents chooses Vybz Kartel over Beenie Man as the current king of dancehall.
“Right now I think Spice and Vybz Kartel are the queen and king of dancehall, I have ratings for Beenie Man, but right now Kartel is the man even from behind bars,” one fan told us. “There is no debating that the Worl’Boss achieved a height in dancehall that Beenie never did and even in prison the man is still running the game.”
“Beenie Man was the king but his rein has come to an end its Vybz Kartel who is the true king now,” another fan added. “Beenie should retire now just like Lady Saw and let Kartel take the title. Nothing wrong with these old heads stepping aside making way for the new generation to run the business.”
Despite the enthusiasm of some dancehall fans, there are still some folks who thinks that Beenie is still at the helm of dancehall. “Beenie is still the king but Kartel is seriously a strong contender for the title, but it’s foolish to think the either is the king right now when Sean Paul achieved so much for the music,” one fan said.
Vybz Kartel, who is currently serving life in prison, released an album last year titled King of the Dancehall. The pro
Spice drop two music videos in one day, “Robot Wine” and “Hooku Wine.”
The video for “Hooku Wine” is also a medley with a part of it for another of her songs, “Couple Up.” You can always count on Spice to drop some fun filled videos with her legion of female dancers. The cuts were directed by Xtreme Arts and features the dancehall diva and her dance crew wearing all white while showing off their skills in a mining pit.
Spice recently made headlines for her beef with Beenie Man over who is the heir to the dancehall queen throne. Earlier this year the “So Mi Like It” deejay stepped up and claimed the title after Lady Saw threw in her towel and got baptized. According to Beenie, Spice is more of a self-appointed queen of dancehall, but in his own opinion she has to put in a lot more work. The female dancehall star shot back saying Beenie himself is a self-proclaim king and Vybz Kartel is more deserving of the kingship than he is.
Watch Spice two new music videos for “Robot Wine” and “Hooku Wine” below.
Dancehall fans have spoken and the overwhelming majority thinks Spice is the new queen.
Beenie Man and Spice ignited a heated debate this week with their ongoing back-and-forth about the issue of her being the new dancehall queen. According to Beenie, Spice is more like a self-appointed designated queen of dancehall, but Lady Saw is still very much the queen. Seems the vast majority of dancehall fans thinks that Spice is the only female artist at the moment who is deserving of the crown.
Dancehall HipHop did a survey on social media this week asking fans if they think that Spice is the new queen of dancehall and 67% of respondents say yes. “Spice is the only consistent female artist in dancehall right now because most of them just do something make a lot of noise and then you don’t hear nothing from them,” one fan wrote while another added, “From Lady Saw turn Christian a Spice a run the thing, she consistent she always find a hit and her video them bad.”
A handful of fans who responded seems to agree with Beenie Man and thinks that Spice has more work to do before she can be elevated to the throne. “Some fans a bash Beenie Man but him right with what he said because Spice has a lot more work today to reach even close to the levels of Lady Saw,” one fan wrote. “You have to be a global dancehall icon to be the queen you can just hot a yard alone. Lady Saw was doing big collaborations with No Doubt and having platinum records. Spice has yet to reach those heights in music to be crowned the queen.”
“While I agree that Spice is the leading female dancehall artist right now, I still don’t think she works hard enough to be the queen,” one fan said. “A just some ignorant fans without proper reasoning a criticize Beenie statement when if you really think about it he is right. If you weren’t around in the 90s and 2000s to know what Lady Saw did for dancehall then you have no part in this conversation.”
The firestorm started last weekend when Beenie Man told Winford Williams on OnStage that Spice is more like a self-appointed designated queen of dancehall and not one who has the support of the vast majority of dancehall artists. Spice shot back on her Instagram page saying that Beenie Man too is a self-appointed king of the dancehall, but the real king, in her opinion, is behind bars, Vybz Kartel.
Seems the Gazanation boss has been tuning in to whats been happening and decided to add his voice to the mix. Kartel posted a comment on Spice photo on IG this morning assuring her that she is the queen. “Queen of Dancehall you look good nuh bloodcl**t,” Kartel wrote. “Queen of Dancehall in her throne drinking sperone.” Spice posted a photo of herself actually drinking Sperone.
Our Gaza sources told us that Vybz Kartel supports Spice as the queen and himself as the king. “Addi the King and Spice the queen that’s how dancehall set right now and Vybz Kartel showing that he can rule from behind bars,” sources told us. “All the old people them fi retire and stop badmind the younger acts. Addi a the king, the greatest to ever set foot on a dancehall platform no one can dispute that. Lady Saw was the queen but she gave up the throne and baptize, we wish her the best, but the only female who can fill her shoe right now is Spice.”
The dancehall legend did an interview with Winford Williams on OnStage last weekend where he spoke about Spice crowning herself the new queen of dancehall. “Well the queen of dancehall baptized now,” Beenie said in reference to Lady Saw being baptized and is now a devote Christian. The deejay then said Spice will have to do as much work as Lady Saw did to elevate her status to the queen of the genre, but for now she is the designated queen.
Spice hit back at Beenie Man hard calling him “badmind” and even suggesting that Vybz Kartel is the real king of dancehall. “D Rasta man [Beenie Man] vex true mi say a Kartel a the king a dancehall,” Spice said. “Nothing is wrong with your sentence “The Queen got baptized” we all know that, but you also do know that the king is incarcerated right.”
In his defense, Beenie Man said in a video clip posted on Instagram that he didn’t said anything negative in his statement. “What I heard about Spice saying this about my interview and I heard about what her fans have to say,” the Doc said. “I have to wonder, everybody have wifi but is not everybody wisdom listen to what am saying, when somebody say you’re the designated queen that means you get a post to be someone but you’re not voted for by the mass. When you become the queen elect then that means that you’re voted for by the mass and now all you need is a crown to put on your head to become that queen. Now if you get anything negative from that?”
Bwoy me still a wonder how people take a compliment and turn it into criticism and conflict. It mek yuh wonder who have a "Bad" mind. Unnu nuh have some lef over Sunday dinner fi go warm up later??? Go find supm do and enjoy life man. #Movewidyuhbadvibes #guhwatchtheinterview #NoTimeFiNegativity #BeenieMan #kingofthedancehall
“Bwoy me still a wonder how people take a compliment and turn it into criticism and conflict,” Beenie wrote on IG. “It mek yuh wonder who have a “Bad” mind. Unnu nuh have some lef over Sunday dinner fi go warm up later? Go find supm do and enjoy life man.”
Earlier this tear, Spice crowned herself the new reigning queen of Jamaica’s dominant music genre, dancehall, a title previously held by Lady Saw who is now a gospel artist and a pastor. In 2015, Lady Saw relinquished her crown to become a Christian and she never looked back. She struggled with the transition for years before finally making her break-through. Since then no one stepped up to set on the throne at least not until this year when Spice stepped up to the plate.
There is no doubt that Spice has been a force in dancehall for the past few years, but is it enough to wear the crown for the queen of the dancehall? Beenie Man answered that question during an interview with Winford Williams on OnStage last weekend. “Well the queen of dancehall baptized now… Marion Hall [Lady Saw], the queen of dancehall baptized,” Beenie Man said. “So I am here to see the next queen to come.” When asked about Spice crowning herself, Beenie said, “Well she is the one that stepped up to the plate but that’s not how you become the queen.”
“Because if you’re going to take Lady Saw crown then you have to do what Lady Saw did like no disrespect, you can’t do less work and [want to be the queen],” Beenie added. The dancehall king lamented that Spice will have to elevate her career to the same heights as Lady Saw in order to gain the respect of the fans. “Becomes that artist that you know… she is Spice in Jamaica, she is Spice everywhere Jamaicans is, she is Spice everywhere Caribbean people is, she needs to be Spice where American and British people meet,” the Doc continues. “I am not talking about watching Instagram and talking about song, reaching the people ears the right way, being that artist that we can sit down in Jamaica and look on you on MTV and look on you on VH1 and say alright she has done it and she has reached that point. Because Lady Saw did it and she reached that point.”
Beenie Man added that Spice is more like the queen-elect, but still has more work to do to elevate her career to the next level.
The “Sheets” deejay react via Instagram on Monday calling the dancehall legend a hater just because she thinks that Vybz Kartel is the king of dancehall. “D Rasta man [Beenie Man] vex true mi say a Kartel a the king a dancehall,” Spice said. “Smh Veterans want to be praised for paving the way but still never want to let go or embrace the New artiste. You crowned yourself king when yellow man was really the king and then over the years you were found fit after repeatedly self proclaiming it.”
From around the mid-1990s, Beenie Man proclaimed himself as the king of dancehall and despite some rejection from some artists and fans at the time, it eventually sticks. There is always a debate in dancehall about who is the king, but there has never been a real debate on who the queen is until now because Lady Saw fittingly wore that crown for the past two decades. Spice has now stepped up to plate and crowned herself and that territory comes with controversies.
“Unlike bounty killer who highlighted so many dancehall careers what did you ever do for dancehall after so many years as the “KING” Not even a one girl yu never buss as a dancer much less not even your own daughter a Ding Dong haffie dweet Kmt,” Spice added. “Saw left a huge shoe to fill and no female will fill it overnight. Nothing is wrong with your sentence “The Queen got baptized” we all know that, but you also do know that the king is incarcerated right.”
Spice also used the opportunity to promote her new single with Beenie Man’s ex-wife D’Angel, “No Worries.”
D Rasta man vex true mi say a Kartel a the king a dancehall. Smh Veterans want to be praised for paving the way but still never want to let go or embrace the New artiste. You crowned yourself king when yellow man was really the king and then over the years you were found fit after repeatedly self proclaiming it. Unlike bounty killer who highlighted so many dancehall careers what did you ever do for dancehall after so many years as the "KING" Not even a one girl yu never buss as a dancer much less not even your own daughter a Ding Dong haffie dweet Kmt. Saw left a huge shoe to fill and no female will fill it overnight. Nothing is wrong with your sentence "The Queen got baptized" we all know that, but you also do know that the king is incarcerated right ? ? A it a Bun u baad ???that's y mi love dah song yah wid Yu X wife wooiiee a weeeak??? "me nah no worries a god a deal wid everything" St. Vincent thanks for a great night, Grenada ?? your next this weekend , jamrock cruise right after then Canada ?? the following week. Trust mi I'm not here to fight for the invisible crown I'm Making moves one step at a time. Some a unu egotistical hypocrites a talk bout a pure slackness mi sing just answer which female sung the most slack songs in dancehall history ? When I sing good songs they don't even get played but as mi sing a slack song a it unu know. Haters can't bring me down Same thing unu did do Bob Marley unu never claims him or highlight him until he became international but trust me I'll work hard enough to see the bandwagonist. Too much bitterness in dancehall mi soon left it and go do hip hop